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The Great Controversy: Which Old Testament laws apply to Christians?

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Speaker A:

So today with Christina, I'm going to go through some interesting comments that was made on a Reddit post regarding how do we determine which Old Testament laws apply today? And Christians are coming and they're offering their opinions, and let's read some of them. The first one, here's a helpful tool. There are three types of laws. The moral law, the civil law, and the ceremonial law. The moral law is universal and eternal. The civil law was given to theocratic Israel and no longer applies to them as a country. But we can find principles from these laws. The ceremonial law was the rituals of the temple, the dietary laws that were given as rules for worship. These were a shadow of the future substance that is Jesus. He fulfilled these laws. Understanding these types makes questions easy to answer, but these are just a guide, not a solid rule. Hope this helps your study. Here's the big problem with the three category system. Can you guess what it is?

Speaker B:

We get to decide which. What law belongs in which box?

Speaker A:

Yeah, they are. They are made up categories, these categories. There's nowhere in the Bible where it says, and thus is the Lord, these are the civil laws, and thus is the Lord. These are the ceremonial laws. And thus is Lord. These are the moral laws.

Speaker B:

Another reasoning behind it is that we'll say, well, a moral law is that which is backed up by God's unchanging, eternal character. So we know his unchanging, eternal character. You know, murder and lying, adultery. Clearly that goes against his eternal, unchanging character. It has nothing to do with culture, with geography or with geography. Has nothing to do with temples, you know? Right. That's. It's based on God's unchanging character. So then anything that we think isn't that, we stick into a different box. Ceremonial, civil. But I think it's interesting. Leviticus, chapter nine. I'm just gonna read a few verses. And the Lord spoke to Moses saying, speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel and say to them, you shall be holy, for I, the Lord your God, am holy. That's a description of God's character. God is holy. And God is saying, you shall be holy as I am holy. And he gives a few things. He wants us to follow some instructions. Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father. Hey, we had that in the Ten Commandments. We got that. We're good. Moral law. Honor your mom and dad.

Speaker A:

I mean, that. That makes sense.

Speaker B:

That makes sense. Yeah. Let's go to the next one, though, and keep my Sabbaths. Oh, no, but that's a ceremonial Law. But God's describing something that according to my holy character, there's a few things I want you to do. Revere your mother and father, keep my Sabbaths, for I am the Lord your God. Verse 4. Do not turn to idols. Do not make for yourself molded idols. I am the Lord your God. And he goes on in the rest of the chapter and in chapter 20 as well, you know, don't sacrifice your children to the fire. Don't do witchcraft, don't do crazy stuff that we could agree are moral laws because they go against God's holy character. But in the mix Sabbath is also thrown in, right? Isn't that interesting?

Speaker A:

Yeah, that is. So he, the Father is not saying boom, boom, boom, he's mixing these things together. And there's also in the word it says there is one law. There is one law for the stranger and the native born alike, that no matter whether you are born of the twelve tribes of Israel by blood or whether you are someone who comes and be is now grafted into Israel as Paul talks about by belief in the Messiah. There is one law. I guess the crutch of this matter with this comment is that there is nowhere in the Bible this is a made up distinction. And there is. I, I do understand, though I will say this, I do understand that we can see certain laws as being in Israel for when there was a theocracy. There are laws that are given for certain situations. There are laws that are given for the temple, for the priest, for when you make an offering. This is how you do it. We cannot do that. We cannot, we cannot in this moment in time keep that law. But does that mean that law is abolished? No. Right. It just means that the, the record, it's like anything. It's like if I'm driving on the road and I'm seeing, and I'm in a car, right? And I see a sign like that's for pedestrians. I'm not obeying the sign for pedestrians. If I'm riding a bicycle and I'm seeing a car sign that says you can drive 100 miles an hour and I'm on a bicycle, I'm like, I can't obey that law. That's not for me. So the Bible has many laws that are for females, for males, and if you're not a male or female, that's not for you, you can't keep that. But that does not abolish it, right? So the only issue with the three distinctions of civil moral ceremonial is when we decide by our man made opinions which one goes in which box? And by that we use that system in order to abolish a law from our lives. By abolish I just mean by practically we're not keeping it anymore, right? Like the Sabbath, you know.

Speaker B:

And I also think it's interesting, kind of going back to Leviticus 19:20, where God sort of mixes Sabbath and with all these other moral sounding laws which if you read, I encourage you go read Leviticus 19 through 20, because Leviticus 20 talks about how, you know, don't sleep with this random person and don't uncover the nakedness of your mother or sister and don't do crazy, creepy, weird stuff, you know, obviously moral issues. And then he ends it with one of those other very controversial ceremonial loss. And God says this. You shall therefore distinguish between clean animals and unclean, between unclean birds and clean. And you shall not make yourselves abominable by beast or by bird or by any kind of living thing that creeps on the ground which I have separated from you as unclean. For you shall be holy to me. For I, the Lord am holy and have separated you from the peoples that you should be mine. So God is giving this example. I'm calling you to be separate from these animals I've called unclean. Because I've separated you from the peoples to be holy, set apart Kadosh unto me. So it's a reflection of his holy character and it has this physical manifestation and a call for obedience and this instruction. So we see these two chapters, there's two ceremonial laws mixed in with a lot of moral laws. And yet God describes them all. He begins chapter 19 with do these things to be holy as I am holy. He ends chapter 20 and you do these things to be holy as I am holy.

Speaker A:

Amen. And holiness is not something that is changing over time. In that what is holy yesterday is still a holy thing to do today. And what I mean by that is, you know, Yeshua never ate unclean, right? He never touched an unclean animal in terms of eating it for his own.

Speaker B:

Is exactly that's the question. Because are we saying God's character has changed?

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

You know, we can say, well, well, certain instructions may not apply. Well, are we talking about God's character? God's character here? He says, for I am holy, be holy as I am holy. Are we saying God's holiness has changed or God's requirement for us to be holy as he is holy? Well, even Peter also says, for you are called to be holy as I'm holy. Hearkening back to the Torah. But also these chapters that we see written in Leviticus 19.

Speaker A:

He's quoting Leviticus.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

He is saying, be holy for I'm holy. When Peter says that to the churches.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And what did Peter also say? Lord, I have never eaten anything that is unclean. And he said that in the book of Acts, long after the resurrection, when he received that vision, right, with the unclean animal, the sheet and the animals coming down, and he was distraught by it. And he said, I have never eaten anything unclean. Oh, hold up, Yeshua. That means never told them, hey guys, I've shown up. You can eat whatever you want. You don't have to be holy in that way anymore, right? Like, no, we see rather that Yeshua kept the commandments, the ones you just read from Leviticus. His disciples were taught to keep it. He never told them otherwise. And Peter continued to do that.

Speaker B:

Right. And you know, Paul writes in Second Corinthians, chapter 6, do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. That is reminiscent of what we see in Leviticus. Be separate from the nations. Right? I've called you. Be separate to be holy. So do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God, as God has said, I will dwell in them and walk among them, and I will be their God. They shall be my people. Again we're hearkening back to Leviticus 19:20. Therefore come out from among them and be ye separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean. Wait, that sounds deja vu. Leviticus 20. Do not touch what's unclean. We know it's not just talking about. It's talking about the physical, the spiritual. We're talking about how these things that he says, what communion has light with darkness. But God is making this connection here. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you. I will be a father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. And the first verse of chapter seven. Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Speaker A:

Right? Some people have said that Leviticus and the instructions regarding animals, unclean animals given to Israel, was to simply set Israel apart from the nations. But it's no longer relevant because Israel no longer needs to be. That was for that time. But yet we see in our New Testament, written to us, the very same words, that you are today still to remain separate in how you act from the nations. You are to be holy. That's what holiness means. It means to be set apart. That's the definition. And I love how he even specifically mentions uncleanness. Remember that Peter getting his vision? He concluded not that, oh, I can eat anything I want. I can eat unclean. No, he concluded I shouldn't call any man unclean so that he could go to Cornelius's house, proclaim the gospel because there was Jewish laws that Peter still remembered that God was trying to get him away from, which declared that he could not eat with gentile sinners. God said, you can eat with them in order to proclaim the gospel. Yes.

Speaker B:

And you know what's so sad? In the first century, there was a wall of partition that needed to be broken down. And that's what God did.

Speaker A:

That's why Yeshua. That's why Yeshua said that when you eat something, that the body isn't the thing that gets. Becomes unclean. Because remember, that's what you just said. They believed. They believe that if someone ate something that's unclean, that person is unclean, and I should stay away from that person now. And that is not biblical, right? That. That belief is not from the Bible. And so it was something that caused the gospel to be hindered. If you had that mindset.

Speaker B:

Are you talking about like Mark 7, where Yeshua says, you know, we know Mark 7. If you. It's important to have the Bible translate and explain the B. That is so important. We don't inject our own understanding, our own bias. Let the Bible explain the Bible. The Bible in Mark 7 talks about how the Pharisees had issue with what they were doing, but it was because of unwashed hands. Look at the first few verses. And they were eating grain bread. It had nothing to do with eating pig. They were not eating bacon. Sorry, guys. And Yeshua said that it's important that what comes out of you, the gossips, the filthiness, the sexual immorality, that's what makes you want to clean. Because the context is unwashed hands. It is not talking about how we can all have ham, we can all have bacon. Now, again, read the context, and I just find it interesting. I'm gonna jump to Acts 15. Just talking about food right now. We're talking about food laws, this law that we've Seen as a ceremonial law, which means we can kind of chuck it in the. We don't need to think about it, care about it.

Speaker A:

But this applies to more than just that.

Speaker B:

Exactly. This applies to more than just that. But just for the moment, while we're on this specific law, I find it interesting, we will often quote Acts 15 to say, well, only four laws apply to Gentiles. Ironically, of the four laws, two of them are dietary laws. Do not eat blood. Here we go. So I'm going to read them. Abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. Two of those laws for the Gentiles are dietary laws. But I thought we threw all the dietary laws in the ceremonial box to get rid of it.

Speaker A:

We can eat wherever we want now, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I thought it doesn't matter anymore. I can eat the blood pudding, I can eat the whatever. But hold a second. If we hold to this idea that these are the only laws Gentiles are held to, we. We contradict ourselves. So let's let the Bible explain. The Bible.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And of course, they're not the only laws that. That are relevant for today still. They are simply the ones that were given to those Gentiles because they were pagans who were coming out of paganism. They were drinking blood, they were busy of sexual morality and orgies.

Speaker B:

They were. These were the first steps. Like, you can't enter the fellowships until you've dealt with these issues. The rest will come because obviously the whole Ten Commandments is not even written here. Like, yeah, absolutely. But these are the first basic steps.

Speaker A:

Absolutely. So I think next we're going to look at another comment. He says, love God and love people sums up the laws. Okay. I think first of all we can agree with that.

Speaker B:

Amen. Amen.

Speaker A:

Love is what. What it is all about. Many of which were specific for the time and circumstance. Jesus could show up every thousand years or so and update the laws for the current world. Instead, he just gave us it once. In the Old Testament, a lot of Levitical laws had to do with hygiene and disease. Some are now unnecessary because of the way humanity and technology has progressed. Jesus himself defined, defied the law about not touching people with skin diseases. But the Bible says Jesus without sin. So how do we decide what to follow and what not to follow? By walking closely with the Spirit in love. The Holy Spirit gives us discernment to know what is right. Yes, the Holy Spirit gives us discernment, but we don't get to decide what to follow. And what not to follow simply based on how we feel about a certain law, for example, stating that, oh, back then they didn't have a good grip on hygiene and disease. That's why they had to abstain from these animals. Guys, there are people today who still get diseases, by the way, from eating unclean animals. You cannot, you know, we can go into the scientific aspects of it, but regardless, people still get sick. But that's not why God. God doesn't say, I'm giving this to you because your hygiene is not good. I'm giving this to you because you guys are, are going to get some of the viruses that are in these animals now. Those things are part of it. But now he said, I'm giving this to you so that you can be holy, because it is an abomination for you to partake in these things. That is the reason that God gives. What God considers an abomination is not something that changes just because our hygiene improves.

Speaker B:

And you know what's interesting also is, like, there's so many laws that have to do with hygiene that I think for thousands of years made no sense to people because, like, dude, we only just recently discovered that germs are a thing. And so we have in the Torah, we wash your hands. That's the thing, guys. Or like, after the woman has given birth, she gets to have a period of, like, being unclean. Oh, no, she's unclean. What a horrible thing. No, it means she gets a time of rest where she's not required to do anything else. She gets that time to just be with her baby. Her husband shouldn't be having marital rights on her at that moment because she's unclean. It's actually a safe space for her. God gave so many laws to protect, to give life to the things that we didn't even know at that time. At that time, we didn't maybe think of some of these things like cleanliness and germs. So God is, because I am holy, I'm helping you. I am, I am.

Speaker A:

But he knows what's best for our bodies.

Speaker B:

He knows what's best for our bodies. He made our bodies. And so a lot of these things are protecting us and helping us. And we even see in science, like, oh, actually it's a good thing for a woman to have that time, like the scripture says, for her body to heal mentally and emotionally, all these different things. Again, science has so often gone like, oh, wait, Scripture was right, right? The Bible was right, right?

Speaker A:

Another thing that was said in this comment is Jesus defied the law about not touching people with skin disease. But the Bible says Jesus without sin. Now, you know, you mentioned uncleanness. I think it's important to note that you, when we're talking about uncleanness, that doesn't necessarily refer to sin. Okay. When we are talking about the dietary instructions regarding do not eat, what is unclean? Yes. If you break that law, that's the sin is the definition. Sin is defined as breaking the Law of God, 1 John 3, 4. But when it comes to becoming unclean by engaging in certain acts, there are certain things that you will do that declares you unclean. That is not about breaking God's law. It is about being a human being. For example, a woman who gives birth, that is a part of nature. That is not a sin. That is not because she broke God's law. That's because she had a baby. So that uncleanness that she has is not a bad thing in the way that people often think of it. It simply refers to how she could not approach the temple of God where the presence of God was while she was in her unclean state. And there was, by the way, there's things that men. If you touch a dead body, for example, you also are in an unclean state and you cannot go to the temple and make an offering until you get clean again. That kind of makes sense. I mean, you don't want people like, who are touching dead bodies.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean, think about it. We actually just had, in the last hundred years, it would be common, I mean, thinking in the Civil War time period and later where doctors who had just done a surgery or taken care of a corpse would go deliver a baby without washing their hands. You know, this happens.

Speaker A:

That's the physical aspect, the physical aspect.

Speaker B:

And that's something God is addressing as well.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

The spiritual as well. But there's this element that we haven't thought of and history and God is like, hey, I'm protecting yourselves.

Speaker A:

So when Yeshua touches a leper, he's not sinning. See, as the, as the poster said, Jesus. Does this not mean Jesus would have broken the law? No, he did not break the law. Within Yeshua was the Holy Spirit. Within him was the power to heal. And so he touched someone, he raised the dead. If he touched a person who was dead and they came back to life.

Speaker B:

They'Re no longer dead, they're no longer dead.

Speaker A:

If he touched a leper and the leper is clean, they're clean, they're clean. Okay, so that means that there is no uncleanness. By definition that that is what the miracle is all about, that they are clean.

Speaker B:

Because the scripture says the same Holy Spirit that raised Yeshua Christ from the dead lives within us. We are also called to follow God's guidance and his voice. And if he says to pray for that person, you pray for that person. And having faith that God can do the impossible and God can bring cleanness where there's uncleanness, for example, if there's sickness, God can bring life from the dead and to operate as Yeshua as Jesus did, walking in his footsteps.

Speaker A:

Right? And the last thing I want to address just in this post was he said some laws are now unnecessary. Again, coming back to the different time periods. Now I just want to read what Yeshua said about that in Matthew 5:19. Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. Whatever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. So it's really risky to say some of the laws are now unnecessary because by that we are relaxing some of the laws. And the warning that the Messiah gives to those who relax his laws is that there is going to be a different standing in the kingdom to come. That's not my words, it's heavy words. And it's a warning that he gives. He says, do not think that I have come to abolish them by my acts. I have only come to fulfill them in my own life. So you can see what it looks like to walk in holiness, to walk in perfection, to walk after, as my Father always called you, to walk. He is our perfect example. Whoever says he abides in him or to walk as he walked. Is that true or not? Is that no longer true? Because you cannot say I'm going to walk as he walked, but I'm going to do away with these certain laws that he walked out. We have to obey him fully for who he is.

Speaker B:

Amen. And something I just want to like add. I know it's kind of going back to the previous question, but it just came to mind, you know how we have this, the moral ceremonial civil law. And the reason why we do is we'll say maybe it's related into the temple when we put the Sabbath and when we put the unclean food laws into this ceremonial box, because the ceremonial box is stuff has to do with the temple, you know, temple laws. The question I would be curious to ask is how is the Sabbath tied to the temple alone, as in without a temple you cannot rest on the seventh day. How is eating clean, as in not eating that pork sandwich, tied to needing to have a temple.

Speaker A:

There is no requirement to have a temple in order to keep the Sabbath day. That is a weekly thing that is done. And it is done whether you have a temple or not. How you eat is done whether you have a temple or not. It's got nothing to do with one another, right? To relax, the law is to say, I can do this. Law, this is I, I have, I see the road sign. The road sign is for me. This is, I'm a man. I see a road sign that's for a man. The law that's for a man, right? And yet I'm going to turn my eyes away from it, I'm going to relax it in my own life. I'm not going to teach it to other people, going to even tell them they shouldn't do it, which occurs sometimes. And that's what Yeshua is warning against.

Speaker B:

In some ways, just to keep it simple. It's just looking at the word of God again. The foundation is love. And how can I show my love for the Father and show my love to others? Because that's what all these laws are, just the details on how to love God, how to love others, and what are things I can do, I can rest on the seventh day. It's really not that hard. In fact, it's incredibly easy and it's a blessing. We're not talking about additional Talmudic laws, we're not talking about additional Jewish laws. We're not talking about anything that's man made. We're talking about simply what God has in his word to rest in the seventh day, to call it holy, as he called it holy. You know, I can choose not to eat the pepperoni pizza with the pork or the ham. That's really not that hard. There's so many other options that are clean. I don't need to have again, being in the land of Israel, having the temple, the things that would make it a ceremonial quote unquote law, we are able to do these things easily, no matter where we are.

Speaker A:

And you're not doing any of these things to be saved.

Speaker B:

No, that's exactly the point.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you're not doing, you're not trying to, you know, I know people oftentimes when we speak about the law of God, immediately they start thinking, oh no, you're trying to work for your salvation. Oh no, you're. Well, you know, when we are speaking of the things we agree on, like do not Murder, do not steal, do not commit adultery. If we have a conversation about those things, no one is going to come and say, well, are you trying to gain your salvation by not murdering anyone? No, no one's going to say that. Because that's evil to do. And in the same way it is to break the law of God in other areas as well. And you can still desire to not break the law of God without trying to gain salvation by it. But simply because we want to be like Yeshua, we want to walk like Jesus, we want to do the things Jesus did, we want to walk in holiness. Not because I'm trying to get myself saved by my own works and my law keeping. No, but because of his law keeping. That is his righteousness imputed to me, that gives His Holy Spirit to me, that changes my nature, that changes my actions, that changes me and writes his law on my heart. Because that is the new covenant, is it not that the law has been written on my heart that I now want to. I am changed. It is not like I am in Israel with the law on stone. And I, I just, I'm looking upon it, but I cannot do it. The law is written my heart, my nature has changed. I can by his empowerment. I'm not going to be perfect. We're going to make mistakes, we're going to stumble at times, but we get up, we repent, we move forward, and we are saved by his grace and his mercy, by dying for us on the cross.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, you know, as Paul writes, he says, for those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh. But those who live according to the Spirit, to the Holy Spirit, on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God. For it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be so. Then there those who are in the flesh cannot please God. But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. If indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now, if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. So this is this thing we have, this, the flesh, the Spirit. The flesh is the enmity to the law of God. The law of God is, helps us to walk in righteousness, but it's not something we do on our own. We need His Holy Spirit. And it's by walking in His Spirit, through the, the power of His Spirit that He fills us with to enable us to walk in obedience and righteousness. We are then able to, to say no to the flesh and to walk in obedience and righteousness.

Speaker A:

And by the way, guys, for anyone listening, I know that there's like a ton of verses. If, if many of this is foreign to you, you're going to have a ton of verses just popping up. If you know the Bible, you're going to be like, hey, but didn't you know, Paul said we shouldn't judge anyone on, you know, what day they esteem or, you know, what about Yeshua? Didn't he say that it doesn't matter what you eat? You know, there's all of these verses today. We don't have time to deal with all of them, but we have videos on this channel that I'm going to link in the description of this video. Go and check that out. Where we go, verse by verse, we discuss them and we uncover the correct context of these verses. Because so many things have been taken out of context in order to justify breaking the law of God in some areas. Now, last thing, and it's the last comment I want to read on this thread here and that is this. Those that are confirmed, those laws that are confirmed in the New Testament, those are the laws that we know remain today. So there's also this idea in Christianity that the only laws of God that we need to care about or worry about are the ones that are repeated in the New Testament. Some even go as far as to say that are specifically repeated by the Messiah. Now, the Bible never states that the laws that are repeated are the only ones that remain. In fact, we rather see that the New Testament authors are continuously quoting, just like Cristina read earlier, quote, like, like Peter was quoting from Leviticus, like in the book of Acts, the Jerusalem Council, quoting all those laws directly from Leviticus, and then even beseeching the Gentiles to go to the synagogue to hear the law being read every Sabbath. For that's of course in the first century where you would learn more about how to walk like the Messiah, like Jesus into the image of the Father to look at the life of Christ is what we should look to. If you want to say, well, I want to do what's in the New Testament. Great in one way, because do what Jesus did. Look at his life, obey what he obeyed. Did he say everything that he did at every single moment? No, but we know what he did because he lived according to his Father's instructions. So if you want to live like Jesus, you look at how he kept the law of God, how he obeyed it, specifically by love, by walking in the Holy Spirit, by a discernment of bringing life, using the law to bring life, not death, as the Pharisees did in the first century. By putting burdens on the shoulders of men that were man made. No, we don't do that. But looking at the life of Christ and how he kept it, and that he did keep it, yes, obey those laws then, the laws that were made manifest in his life. And that includes him keeping, by the way, the Sabbath every week for his entire life, never skipping a beat. That includes him eating clean food every meal throughout his life, never skipping a beat. As Peter declared, I I dwelt with the Messiah and I have never eaten anything that is unclean. Or the feast days, how Yeshua said, I am going up to the feast. He was at the feast of Tabernacles. He was at the feast of Shavuot. He was at the feast of Passover with his disciples, also known as the Last Supper. Or what about how Paul said, I must by all means leave you to go and attend this feast coming in Jerusalem, Paul said, even to the churches, we must be unleavened. Let's keep the feast therefore unleavened, referring to the feast of Unleavened Bread, a biblical feast. These things have been forgotten. But yet he has told us, remember, many people, when they think of the law, they think of the certain Pharisees who always coming against the Messiah, against Jesus with their laws. But we have to understand, guys, that the laws that the Pharisees were pushing in that day was really upsetting to the Messiah. Jesus didn't like it because they were adding their own man made laws. And they were hypocrites in how they applied the law. They were picking and choosing. They neglected to weight your matters. So the Messiah never said, forget about the law, he rather corrected them on how they did it improperly. He even said to us, when they sit on Moses seat, the scribes and the Pharisees listen and obey to what they tell you, but do not do what they do. In other words, when they're reading from the law of Moses, he's saying, obey, but don't do what they do. Don't be hypocrites as they are.

Speaker B:

Hypocrites, exactly. I was going to just say because they are acting hypocritically. Yeah, they're saying one thing, but they're doing the opposite.

Speaker A:

The law was never the issue. The law of men was the issue. The law of God is holy and perfect. And the Messiah came and showed us how it should be walked out. But let's. If we have a fight to pick with the law, let it be with the laws of man that seek to imprison people, or the theologies that state that there is a different gospel, one by which you keep the law of God in order to be saved, doing away with the need for the Messiah. Those are the pitfalls. But we are a people of the Holy Spirit. We walk in the Spirit, and we do not abandon holiness and the law of God in our pursuit of the Holy Spirit.

Speaker B:

Amen. And you know, like I'm just going to read this last few verses from Mark 7. Yeshua himself said to certain Pharisees, well, did Isaiah prophesy of hypocrites, as it is written, this people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. What's the most important command is love that comes from your heart. And in vain they worship me teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandments of God, you hold the tradition of men, washing of pictures, cups, and many other such things as you do. And he said to them all too well, you reject the commandment of God that you may keep your own tradition.

Speaker A:

Amen.

Speaker B:

Let us be careful we don't fall into that same rebuke.

Speaker A:

Yeah, in fact. So they're clear. Clear as day. He's saying you reject the commandment of God. That is my issue with you. Isn't that amazing? Like, he's, he's putting it right there, black on white. My issue with you is, you see, people today, they'd like to say Yeshua doesn't care about whether we keep the law or the commandments. He, he's kind of wishy washy about it now. He says, my issue with you is that you set aside the commandments of God. So my question to you is, are you setting aside the commandments of God or are you looking at the life of Christ and making no excuse as to what you will do? To walk as he walked, not picking and choosing from his life, not picking and choosing from the law of God, but that which is for you, that you can do, you obey, you do what is pleasing to your Father, walking as he walked, being holy as he is holy. Thank you for joining us, guys. Subscribe to this channel for more like this. We've got a bunch of videos on these topics. We're putting it in the video description. If you want to learn more about unclean food, the Sabbath or any of the other things like the Jerusalem Council, check those videos out. That deal special specifically with those scenarios. And we'll see you there. Shalom.

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